Conversation with #lenya
(06:56:22 PM) The topic for #lenya is: http://lenya.apache.org
(06:56:30 PM) tscherler: muy buenas
(07:08:16 PM) Rudolf_ [email@example.com] entered the room.
(07:20:05 PM) nettings: tscherle1! Rudolf_ !
(07:20:42 PM) nettings: wenn 2.0 draussen ist, dann mach ich aber so was von ein fass auf :-D
(07:39:34 PM) tscherler: jeje
(07:41:31 PM) rfrovarp [firstname.lastname@example.org.NoDak.edu] entered the room.
(07:41:43 PM) nettings: rfrovarp!
(07:42:02 PM) rfrovarp: how's it going?
(07:42:32 PM) nettings: fine. i think i've squashed the editor context bugs.
(07:42:56 PM) rfrovarp: excellent. I've been in the woods since thursday afternoon so I'm trying to get caught up.
(07:43:01 PM) nettings: but wow, taking a closer look at kupu and bxe sure is scary. what a blooming mess.
(07:43:25 PM) nettings: woods meaning what in this case? recreation or drowning in work?
(07:43:39 PM) rfrovarp: recreation. hunting.
(07:43:53 PM) nettings: sounds nice.
(07:44:12 PM) rfrovarp: yeah, no net, cell phone didn't go off, peaceful
(07:44:26 PM) nettings: lovely. what game are you hunting?
(07:44:37 PM) rfrovarp: whitetail deer
(07:45:10 PM) ***nettings thinks hunting is a very consequential way of not being a vegetarian :-D
(07:45:17 PM) nettings: i'
(07:46:20 PM) nettings: d like to be able to prepare game... love to cook, but don't know how to gut and skin...
(07:47:02 PM) rfrovarp: luckily the old man remembers how to do those steps.
(07:47:17 PM) rfrovarp: only do them once or twice a year it's tough to remember.
(07:47:34 PM) nettings: if we ever have a hackathon in the woods, youl'll have to teach me.
(07:47:48 PM) rfrovarp: can do.
(07:48:15 PM) nettings: hey ho! tinymce just went 3.0.0 alpha.
(07:48:30 PM) rfrovarp: cool, what neat stuff is in there?
(07:48:32 PM) nettings: and of course their api is not compatible with our current browser extensions :-D
(07:48:50 PM) nettings: we need to drag 2.0 out kicking and screaming. i want to do 2.0.1 :-D
(07:49:22 PM) nettings: haven't really checked yet. looks like before, works mostly, except for the custom image browser. the new api looks cleaner...
(07:49:47 PM) nettings: fwiw, http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/changelog.php?example=true (haven't really read it myself yet)
(07:52:05 PM) rfrovarp: yeah, looks like we're close to 2.0.
(07:52:14 PM) rfrovarp: i'm waiting for fck 2.5 to go stable.
(07:58:46 PM) nettings: what version are you currently using? i'd like to test it...
(07:59:12 PM) rfrovarp: 2.4.3 but there are issues to get it to work fully.
(07:59:20 PM) rfrovarp: 2.5 should take care of them.
(07:59:38 PM) nettings: is there a usable beta yet?
(07:59:52 PM) rfrovarp: yeah, I haven't tested that though.
(08:01:46 PM) rfrovarp: however, 2.4.3 will load and generally save properly.
(08:01:55 PM) sgottlieb [email@example.com] entered the room.
(08:02:10 PM) rfrovarp: jtidy does some messing with the alignment that can cause issues
(08:02:19 PM) rfrovarp: when editing the page again.
(08:03:01 PM) nettings: why do you need jtidy at all?
(08:03:24 PM) nettings: sgottlieb! how is your lenya evaluation going?
(08:03:29 PM) rfrovarp: i don't remember exactly
(08:03:39 PM) sgottlieb: it is going well
(08:03:47 PM) sgottlieb: i am just finishing up a draft.
(08:03:48 PM) nettings: rfrovarp: :)
(08:03:53 PM) rfrovarp: i think previous version did weird div, p, br things.
(08:04:53 PM) nettings: rfrovarp: ah. tiny has built-in sanitizers for this...
(08:05:52 PM) nettings: sgottlieb: good to hear. can you share your results with us eventually?
(08:06:30 PM) sgottlieb: nettings: my plan is provide an evaluation copy for factual review
(08:08:41 PM) ragaller [firstname.lastname@example.org] entered the room.
(08:11:53 PM) lenya [email@example.com] entered the room.
(08:12:08 PM) lenya is now known as jann
(08:12:48 PM) nettings: sgottlieb: looking forward to it.
(08:13:12 PM) nettings: jann! ragaller!
(08:13:18 PM) jann: Hi all
(08:13:31 PM) ragaller: Hi!
(08:14:26 PM) nettings: ragaller: a question for the tiny expert: a few minutes ago, tiny has taken to eating my umlauts after editing. have you ever seen that?
(08:15:32 PM) ragaller: no - never saw that - I'll have a look right now
(08:16:19 PM) jann: How shall we proceed tonight?
(08:16:38 PM) trindler [firstname.lastname@example.org] entered the room.
(08:17:03 PM) jann: Hi Michael :-)
(08:17:08 PM) nettings: trindler!
(08:17:10 PM) trindler: hi jann
(08:17:19 PM) trindler: and all others!
(08:18:23 PM) tscherler: hi all
(08:18:44 PM) tscherler: Sorry for the delay
(08:19:11 PM) tscherler: Just tagging the rc1
(08:19:32 PM) nettings: tscherle1: would you mind being chair tonight?
(08:19:34 PM) tscherler: I am writing a quick mail with the testing instructions
(08:19:57 PM) tscherler: yeah will try to assist like chair tonight
(08:20:14 PM) nettings: any particular things to think of?
(08:20:50 PM) tscherler: yeah
(08:20:51 PM) tscherler: OS
(08:20:57 PM) tscherler: who is using what
(08:21:08 PM) tscherler: we need at least
(08:21:14 PM) tscherler: linux and windows
(08:21:25 PM) tscherler: mac is covered by andreeas I think ;)
(08:21:29 PM) jann: I am using linux (ubuntu)
(08:21:33 PM) tscherler: so who is using what
(08:21:39 PM) ragaller: mac here too
(08:21:51 PM) trindler: trindler is using mac too
(08:22:38 PM) trindler: i can try to test on windows xp - but it will take some time
(08:22:49 PM) nettings: ragaller: i just realized all my editors are eating umlauts - not a tiny issue...
(08:23:17 PM) nettings: linux/i386 and linux/x86_64
(08:23:39 PM) nettings: (opensuse 10.2)
(08:23:39 PM) tscherler: hmm
(08:23:47 PM) tscherler: no windows
(08:23:48 PM) tscherler: lol
(08:23:55 PM) jann: ubuntu 7.04
(08:24:02 PM) tscherler: am on ubuntu as well
(08:24:08 PM) tscherler: same version like jann
(08:24:36 PM) nettings: tscherle1: at the risk of sounding like your usual linux fanboy: why would anyone want to deploy a web server on windows? i think this should not delay a release.
(08:25:09 PM) ragaller: nettings: we'll deploy 2.0 on windows ;-)
(08:25:41 PM) jann: agreed but what about the client side -> IE
(08:25:43 PM) nettings: ragaller apparently has sinned and seeks punishment :-D
(08:25:58 PM) nettings: jann: now that is an important point.
(08:26:04 PM) nobby [email@example.com] entered the room.
(08:26:16 PM) tscherler: hi nobby
(08:26:19 PM) nettings: i have IE6 running in wine, can test.
(08:26:20 PM) nettings: nobby!
(08:26:21 PM) nobby: hi everyone
(08:26:33 PM) nobby: sorry, I'll be afk from time to time
(08:26:37 PM) nobby: do the laundry etc.
(08:26:41 PM) ragaller: nettings: ;-)))
(08:26:56 PM) nobby: quite crowded in here! :)
(08:28:04 PM) ragaller: nettings: just tested tiny (with the default pub) with Umlauts - no problem here
(08:28:46 PM) nettings: ragaller: yeah, can't reproduce it with default either. must be my custom pub... but it didn't do that before.
(08:29:23 PM) nettings: tscherle1: there's two things i'd like to test particularly:
(08:29:48 PM) nettings: a) are the proxy and context fixes working for others as well (using tomcat or jetty6), and
(08:30:02 PM) nettings: b) are there no regressions with standard jetty.
(08:30:47 PM) nettings: i wasn't able to test kupu properly, and don't know bxe very well from a user's POV
(08:30:57 PM) tscherler: to coordinate this online session and our efforts we need to use ml and wiki to document as much as possible
(08:31:05 PM) tscherler: nettings
(08:31:19 PM) tscherler: can you add a small summary to
(08:31:30 PM) tscherler: http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/TestCases
(08:31:43 PM) tscherler: Like a new test page
(08:31:57 PM) tscherler: http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/TestProxy
(08:32:21 PM) tscherler: If u want I can start it with you just said
(08:32:32 PM) nettings: tscherle1: i'll look into it. but hammering on a wiki with many people simultaneously is problematic...
(08:32:40 PM) tscherler: yaeh
(08:32:48 PM) nettings: tscherle1: one other thing: i just read your commit message regarding cocoon.
(08:33:07 PM) nettings: iiuc you rolled us back to release 2.1.10, yes?
(08:33:22 PM) tscherler: well yeah the last stable version
(08:33:29 PM) nettings: i can see the benefit of using stable, but
(08:33:40 PM) tscherler: we agreed on it on ml, or?
(08:33:47 PM) nettings: cocoon 2.1 doesn't really get release management anymore, but still it's basically stable.
(08:33:57 PM) tscherler: yeah
(08:34:01 PM) tscherler: I agree
(08:34:12 PM) nettings: i objected, because it invalidates most of the testing we did in the last year or so...
(08:34:27 PM) nettings: we've always been using 2.1.-trunk.
(08:34:57 PM) nettings: isn't there a way to use the now-current revision of the trunk (i agree we must freeze in some way, but not 2.1.10 imho)
(08:35:02 PM) nettings: ?
(08:35:27 PM) tscherler: hmm
(08:35:31 PM) tscherler: wdot
(08:36:13 PM) tscherler: we have 2 possibilities IMO
(08:36:46 PM) tscherler: - using 2.1.10
(08:36:48 PM) tscherler: or
(08:38:06 PM) tscherler: - using r595020 for the RC and final releas
(08:38:29 PM) mangst [firstname.lastname@example.org] entered the room.
(08:38:40 PM) ragaller: hoi mangst!
(08:38:53 PM) mangst: hello
(08:38:55 PM) tscherler: the problem that I see is that we need to start allover again a thread we already closed in august
(08:38:58 PM) tscherler: hi all
(08:39:29 PM) jann: r595020 is this the actual version?
(08:39:53 PM) tscherler: yes
(08:40:45 PM) nettings: tscherle1: i strongly favor r595020, but i don't want to walk over anybody.
(08:41:12 PM) tscherler: grr
(08:41:22 PM) tscherler: just reviewed my commit
(08:41:35 PM) jann: I am also for version 595020 and release 2.0 with it
(08:42:04 PM) nettings: how about having an informal vote here? most of the stakeholders are here... we can have a formal vote later.
(08:42:15 PM) tscherler: lenya/tags/RELEASE_2_0_RC_1/src/modules-core/properties/java/src/org/apache/lenya/cms/cocoon/components/modules/input/PropertiesModule.java
(08:42:31 PM) tscherler: hmm
(08:43:06 PM) nettings: ?
(08:43:15 PM) tscherler: actually I fear we cannot
(08:43:29 PM) tscherler: we are 10 here
(08:44:16 PM) tscherler: and rfrovarp
(08:44:22 PM) tscherler: is here
(08:44:26 PM) tscherler: as well
(08:44:44 PM) tscherler: you and bob have been in favor to pin down the version
(08:45:12 PM) tscherler: how do you see it?
(08:46:01 PM) ragaller: What about asking in the cocoon dev list if a release (of a very stable trunk) is a realistic goal for the near future?
(08:46:08 PM) sgottlieb left the room (quit: ).
(08:47:51 PM) tscherler: yeah, can you do this?
(08:50:35 PM) ragaller: Shure, I'll do that - other opinions about the approach?
(08:50:45 PM) nettings: ragaller: i don't think that's how cocoon 2.1 currently works... everybody is concentrating on 2.2RC2 now. are there any open cocoon issues that have an impact on lenya users?
(08:51:11 PM) nettings: ragaller: but no harm in asking.
(08:52:23 PM) ragaller: ok - I'll ask and give the cocoon developers a quick note about our situation
(08:54:12 PM) mangst: just for me to catch up: is there a problem with PropertiesModule.java?
(08:54:47 PM) tscherler: no
(08:55:15 PM) tscherler: will revert the accidential commit
(08:58:39 PM) sgottlieb [email@example.com] entered the room.
(09:05:17 PM) jann: I will try to setup a "proxy testing environment" according to nettings README on my local machine.
(09:05:32 PM) ***nettings is away: phone...
(09:06:22 PM) ***nettings is back
(09:13:58 PM) ragaller: just sent a post to the cocoon dev lista asking about their release plans - hope I did that in a meaningful way
(09:14:28 PM) tscherler: thanks very much
(09:20:06 PM) jann: nettings: It probably make sense to mention the distro you use in the proxy README.
(09:21:35 PM) nettings: jann: why? i'd rather have generic instructions.
(09:21:56 PM) nettings: is there anything suse-specific in there? should be fixed.
(09:25:02 PM) jann: as far as i know there is now standard vhost.d dir in ubuntu and the way to include modules is a bit different ....
(09:26:07 PM) tscherler: quick summary
(09:26:17 PM) jann: certainly you can use your setup but that needs some more work in other distros ....
(09:26:21 PM) tscherler: nettings and jann are testing the proxy
(09:26:51 PM) nettings: jann: ok, i'll remove the vhosts.d dir thing. the module inclusion should work, though, even if the distro uses a script-based approach. or did you run into problems?
(09:27:14 PM) tscherler: somebody else testing a specific test szenario and if so which one?
(09:28:02 PM) nettings: i'd appreciate people to hammer on the standard jetty, especially on bxe and kupu.
(09:28:17 PM) trindler: shall i test linux on jetty/windows or do you propose something else?
(09:28:27 PM) trindler: lenya ...
(09:28:48 PM) nettings: oh, trindler, you have a windows test box? great.
(09:29:06 PM) trindler: i am installing now - hope it works
(09:29:23 PM) nettings: probably best to start with the default setup, e.g. built-in jetty 5. and, if you have, tomcat proxy.
(09:30:39 PM) trindler: uups - the proxy thing i am not sure if i manage to test it - does it make sense to test other functions?
(09:30:48 PM) tscherler: yes
(09:31:06 PM) tscherler: any of http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/TestCases
(09:31:31 PM) trindler: ok - i take some of those on jetty/windows, ok?
(09:31:41 PM) jann: nettings. Yes LoadModule should work but you have to include your conf file somewhere .... In ubuntu and debian this is usually sites-available and sites-enabled ...
(09:33:10 PM) nobby: hi, has anyone seen this before?
(09:33:11 PM) nobby: org.apache.avalon.framework.context.ContextException: Unable to locate object-model.request (No environment available)
(09:33:27 PM) nobby: at org.apache.lenya.cms.cocoon.components.modules.input.PropertiesModule.initialize(PropertiesModule.java:154)
(09:33:39 PM) ragaller: same thing here
(09:34:02 PM) nobby: I updated to Leopard today
(09:34:06 PM) nobby: maybe some Java issue?
(09:35:34 PM) ragaller: nobby: don't think it's leopard related (I'm using it for 2 weeks now, no issues)
(09:35:46 PM) nobby: ok
(09:36:12 PM) tscherler: perfect trindler thank you very much
(09:36:25 PM) nettings: jann: would it be ok to say "locate an active apache configuration file and add 'include "$LENYA_HOME/tools/proxytest/apache_vhosts.conf"' to it?
(09:36:33 PM) tscherler: nobby
(09:36:37 PM) nobby: yes
(09:36:37 PM) tscherler: my fault
(09:36:39 PM) tscherler: will
(09:36:41 PM) nobby: ok
(09:36:45 PM) tscherler: commit it now
(09:36:49 PM) tscherler: was an accident
(09:36:54 PM) nobby: thanx a lot :)
(09:37:53 PM) tscherler: no worries sorry for that
(09:37:59 PM) nobby: no problem
(09:38:28 PM) jann: nettings: Yes that seems ok to me
(09:38:42 PM) nettings: jann: ack. will do.
(09:38:45 PM) nobby: strange, my httpd doesn't start but doesn't generate any logs either
(09:38:57 PM) nobby: ragaller, are you using the apache2 of Mac OS?
(09:39:48 PM) ragaller: nobby: yes, I do - I get logging information using the console (apache2 error log)
(09:39:57 PM) nobby: thx, I
(09:40:00 PM) nobby: will try that
(09:41:46 PM) Rudolf_: Hi all
(09:42:49 PM) trindler: Rudolf, welcome!
(09:42:53 PM) ragaller: Hi Rudolf!
(09:43:57 PM) nettings: Rudolf_!
(09:45:46 PM) nobby: hi Rudolf_
(09:46:06 PM) Rudolf_: I had an other date, so I couldn't be here earlier
(09:46:17 PM) ragaller: nettings: I noticed, that the favorit icon is missing in customer.example.com (I use the proxying setup described by you)
(09:46:43 PM) nettings: thanks, will check...
(09:47:21 PM) tscherler: nobby fixed
(09:47:29 PM) nobby: thx
(09:47:36 PM) tscherler: svn up
(09:47:37 PM) tscherler: ;)
(09:47:49 PM) ragaller: tscherle1: works for me
(09:48:31 PM) tscherler: ragaller, the update?
(09:48:44 PM) ragaller: tscherle1: yes
(09:48:56 PM) tscherler: thx
(10:07:09 PM) sgottlieb: nettings: is computerworld.ch still a lenya site?
(10:07:45 PM) nettings: sgottlieb: dunno. anyone else?
(10:08:50 PM) sgottlieb: at the bottom they say that it is powered by "SiteFusion"
(10:09:14 PM) ragaller: sgottlieb: no, don't think so (yes a lot of cold fusion in the code as well)
(10:09:50 PM) nobby: looking at the URLs, I'd say it isn't anymore
(10:10:26 PM) ragaller: The list of lenya websites should be refreshed (I'll file an enhancement bug)
(10:12:17 PM) nettings: ragaller: re favicon: ACK. but it's not trivial to fix. imho, publications should take care of their own favicons anyways. i'd rather add one to the default pub than hack some fix into the global sitemap.
(10:13:25 PM) nettings: the client requests customer.example.com/favicon.ico, which your apache translates to "localhost:8888/webapp/default/live/favicon.ico"
(10:13:35 PM) jann: www.nzz.ch is no longer powerd by lenya :-(
(10:13:46 PM) nettings: there's no way to fix the original request, since the browser does it implicitly.
(10:14:54 PM) ragaller: nettings: another rewrite rule for the favicon?
(10:17:47 PM) trindler: i got stuck when compiling lenya on windows -> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=43859
(10:17:52 PM) ragaller: trindler: just read about your compilation problem - java 1.5?
(10:18:03 PM) trindler: no 1.4.2
(10:18:59 PM) ragaller: trindler: aha - I'm pretty shure it's a java version related problem. I compiled today on a windows box using java 1.6
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(10:19:23 PM) trindler: so you suggest to use java 1.5 or 1.6?
(10:19:46 PM) trindler: ragaller, thanks - i'll try that.
(10:21:40 PM) nettings: ragaller: hell no. fixed in trunk now. i explicitly linked the favicon in the page header.
(10:24:23 PM) ragaller: nettings: browsers (don't know which ones of them) fire a request for [domain]/favicon.ico - if that one is not processed the server log will end up with tons of 404's
(10:25:10 PM) nettings: unless you tell them <link rel="SHORTCUT ICON" type="image/ico" href="/get/lost/kid.ico"/>
(10:26:18 PM) ragaller: nettings: are you shure that this statement keeps them from firing their standard favicon.ico request?
(10:27:01 PM) nettings: at least it would be the sane thing to do. but no, haven't checked. will do.
(10:27:18 PM) mangst: nettings: not sure about that. you will have to check with ie *and* firefox.
(10:28:08 PM) mangst: or vice versa:-)
(10:31:19 PM) nettings: firefox behaves.
(10:33:03 PM) nettings: can't test IE atm, but i think i did that a while ago, and it honors the <link/>. so there's really no reason why it should additionally requests /favicon.ico.
(10:33:43 PM) nettings: ragaller: jann: can you please browse to http://www.example.com/lenya/customer/authoring/index.html?&lenya.usecase=editors.oneform
(10:33:48 PM) nettings: and tell me what you see?
(10:34:13 PM) nettings: i have bogus link and meta tags in the editor window.
(10:35:49 PM) jann: Sorry, I am away for a short time ......
(10:36:53 PM) ragaller: nettings: looks ok to me - for what kind of wrong link/meta tags do I have to look out for?
(10:37:44 PM) nettings: i'm seeing <meta content-type> and <link rel="stylesheet">, each three times (only here in my proxy setup, not on zones).
(10:37:54 PM) nettings: can you reproduce that?
(10:38:23 PM) ragaller: nettings: is that in the page code in the editor?
(10:38:36 PM) nettings: yeah, in the textarea.
(10:38:58 PM) nettings: it's supposed to say <head><title>FOO</title></head>, nothing more, and then the body...
(10:39:51 PM) ragaller: nettins: In my case it starts with <html><head><title>... - looks fine.
(10:41:05 PM) nettings: no <meta and <link after that?
(10:43:17 PM) ragaller: nettings: no - looks ok.
(10:43:45 PM) nettings: bad karma on my part, then.
(10:43:53 PM) nettings: thanks for the feedback.
(10:46:54 PM) jann: I am back .... still fighting with the proxy setup :-( I try to use tomcat ....
(10:48:11 PM) sgottlieb [firstname.lastname@example.org] entered the room.
(10:51:20 PM) nettings: jann: what's the problem?
(10:51:53 PM) nettings: ragaller: can you try and add some umlauts to a file using the oneform editor? it doesn't work for me.
(10:52:07 PM) nettings: (in proxy setup, default pub, that is)
(10:53:01 PM) nettings: jann: i'm really interested in hearing about potential pitfalls...
(10:53:33 PM) ragaller: nettings: does not work here either (results in ? after saving)
(10:53:56 PM) nettings: gotcha.
(10:54:11 PM) nettings: now, how on earth does this happen?
(10:54:40 PM) nettings: either the problem has been introduced today after the last zones rebuild (because it works there), or it is proxy-specific.
(10:54:50 PM) nettings: it happens to me with tiny as well.
(10:56:19 PM) nettings: kupu and bxe behave ok. iirc tiny and oneform share the usecase handler...
(10:56:44 PM) ragaller: nettings: now I have it in tiny too - sorry, no idea why I could not reproduce that before
(10:57:13 PM) nettings: have you been proxying then?
(10:58:11 PM) ragaller: nettings: mmh - not shure - I'll check the behaviour in unproxied mode.
(11:03:44 PM) tscherler: trindler, did you try the patch?
(11:04:28 PM) trindler: what patch? didn't this refer to the favicon issue?
(11:05:00 PM) trindler: thanks, now i see it!
(11:05:04 PM) tscherler: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=43859
(11:05:26 PM) trindler: i' ll try it now..
(11:05:30 PM) tscherler: thx
(11:05:43 PM) tscherler: if it works I will apply the patch
(11:07:06 PM) ragaller: tscherle1: would we have to test it with java 1.5 / 1.6 (cannot do that atm - I sit on a osx box)
(11:08:38 PM) ragaller: nettings: the Ã¶Ã¼Ã¶Â°Î©@Â°@ - characters are fine in unproxied mode!
(11:08:51 PM) nettings: yup. same here
(11:09:21 PM) nettings: suggestions, gentlemen? i'm stuck.
(11:10:49 PM) jann: I did not get the proxy stuff to work with tomcat ... strange (will try another day). I am going to download jetty ....
(11:11:00 PM) tscherler: ragaller
(11:11:23 PM) tscherler: IMO 1.5
(11:11:32 PM) tscherler: as main
(11:11:58 PM) tscherler: even 1.4.2
(11:12:38 PM) tscherler: I will lookup what we agreed on
(11:13:34 PM) nettings: jann: ah, ok. i was afraid you had run into problems with the jetty6 setup. let me know how it works out. you should be up and running in less than 10 minutes if your apache httpd is running ok.
(11:16:26 PM) ragaller: tscherle1: I was only refering to the new patch (if we have to test it against newer java versions) - we use lenya with java 1.6 under windows and it seems to work fine
(11:17:04 PM) tscherler: ah ok
(11:17:15 PM) tscherler: sorry for the confusion
(11:17:46 PM) tscherler: the patch should work in all verions
(11:17:55 PM) tscherler: but may fix 1.4.2
(11:18:30 PM) tscherler: ...not sure why we never applied it
(11:20:36 PM) ragaller: tscherle1: I can check the java 1.6 compatibility of the patch tomorrow
(11:21:27 PM) tscherler: perfect
(11:23:24 PM) jann: nettings. I did try with tomcat .... gives me quite some hedache ...
(11:24:24 PM) nettings: yeah, tomcat always explodes for me when it comes to endorsed libs... plus there's way to many config options imo.
(11:24:35 PM) jann: I will start from scratch with jetty after a cup of tea ... (Will try tomcat another day after some sleep)
(11:25:23 PM) nettings: and i have the very subjective feeling that jetty is both faster and has a smaller memory footprint (as with all things java, for very small values of "fast" and very large values of "small").
(11:26:14 PM) jann: nettings. Nevertheless I think it is important to have an example setup for tomcat too ... no necessary for the 2.0 release
(11:27:37 PM) nettings: nobby is running tomcat w/o problems iirc - maybe he can share his setup with us?
(11:28:07 PM) nobby: my setup is basically described in the proxy tutorial
(11:28:20 PM) nettings: but i'm more interested in jetty at this point, because i really want to move on to jetty6 for our next minor release.
(11:29:07 PM) nettings: nobby: yeah, but the tutorial doesn't talk much about tomcat subtleties iirc.
(11:29:16 PM) nobby: jann, what's the problem with your tomcat setup?
(11:29:35 PM) nobby: hmm, I just downloaded it, copied the endorsed libs and added the context file
(11:29:39 PM) nobby: nothing fancy
(11:29:52 PM) nobby: the AJP connector is already configured in 6.0.14
(11:29:57 PM) nobby: and IIRC in 5.5.20 too
(11:30:33 PM) nobby: the Leopard apache2 doesn't like my SSL setup yet
(11:30:51 PM) nobby: but it will have to yield :)
(11:34:11 PM) trindler: tscherle1 - jonathans patch fixed the installation problem with java 1.4.2 on windows
(11:34:25 PM) tscherler: ok
(11:34:32 PM) tscherler: thank you very much
(11:34:40 PM) jann: nobby: did you deploy lenya in ROOT context under lenya?
(11:34:46 PM) nettings: ragaller: i think i see where the problem lies... the usecase obtains the encoding from the request, and that can't always be trusted in proxy setups...
(11:34:48 PM) tscherler: I will apply it and test it on my box
(11:34:57 PM) nobby: both, I tried ROOT and lenya contexts
(11:34:59 PM) nobby: both seem to work
(11:35:34 PM) mangst: good night everybody
(11:35:41 PM) nobby: good night
(11:35:47 PM) jann: Did you use the description under http://lenya.apache.org/docs/2_0_x/tutorials/proxy/mod_proxy_ajp.html
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(11:35:56 PM) ragaller: nobby: I used http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20041129143420344 for leopard (yet I have to get the ssl-vhost configuration correctly)
(11:36:20 PM) nobby: thanks for the link
(11:39:07 PM) ragaller: nettings: glad you found a hot spot
(11:39:59 PM) nettings: yeah, but i'm too tired to attack it now.
(11:40:45 PM) ragaller: my bed is calling for me too - good night!
(11:42:19 PM) nettings: night everyone!
(11:42:26 PM) ***nettings is away: zzzZZZZ
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(11:47:33 PM) jann: I wil leave too .... this proxy stuff kills me :-( night everyone
(11:49:48 PM) tscherler: night
(11:51:12 PM) jann: just one last remark. I had contact with a guy from EFPL (ETH in Lausanne). They (and three more Universities from the western part of Switzerlnad) are interested in using lenya :-) I will meet them probably before end of this year
(11:51:29 PM) trindler: and me too - bye jann!
(11:52:32 PM) nobby: good night
(11:53:15 PM) jann: /leave #lenya
(11:53:16 PM) nobby: jann, sounds good!
(11:53:49 PM) jann: Too tired ;-)
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(12:25:21 AM) trindler: hi all. I worked through http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/TestPublish on Windows / Jetty (all ok - no wonder)
(12:26:04 AM) trindler: Fixing http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32571 for 2.01 would be not bad - I guess
(12:31:15 AM) trindler: good night you all!
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